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I like Damien Hirst he is a genius , a Damien Hirs...

2012-01-11T12:51:22.471-05:00

I like Damien Hirst he is a genius , a Damien Hirst Show is a economic event. Next up for the world inflation or deflation???. I like the pickled shark that's about it. I would buy a Christmas snow globe with the shark, Baby Jesus and The Mother Mary and Joseph. Out of the Power 100 Who do you think would have your back in a Bar Room Brawl ??? Damien Hirst thats who!! or perhaps Matthew Barney yea he has got those viking eyes, stone cold badass.

Then you have Larry G. Damien's Dealer . He is a riddle wrapped in a enigma, he is the Federal reserve, Jp Morgan, General Patton the Wizard of Oz, Don Corleone all in one person.

You Know why he is so succsessful ? He never sleeps and eats kittens for Breakfast.

I think it intriguing that a "painting" ...

2012-01-11T09:16:40.352-05:00

I think it intriguing that a "painting" is only seen in part, never the whole, and if you see the whole you have to move/change your environment/diplay of the painting.... so it's a painting that you never see the whole of, and if you do it all, you never see it all under one circumstance ...

I find that aspect fascinating - do we ever know a person under one circumstance, or the whole of their personality , to wmbody that in a painting is really something. Maybe it's more a collection of works then a painting but considering it as a painting that is distributed like our digital world of cloud computing is really something else,

-polka dots are always a fashion statement

Quick, unscholarly thought concerning dot painting...

2012-01-10T22:09:49.773-05:00

Quick, unscholarly thought concerning dot paintings at Gagosian: is the divide between wealth and poverty greater than the divide between two very different cultures? I'd say it is.

What does everyone think of Hirst's attempt at...

2012-01-10T14:38:22.555-05:00

What does everyone think of Hirst's attempt at being in multiple countries through the simultaneous showing of his dot paintings? The dots don't carry too much psychological weight or reference any one particular culture (although I'm probably wrong, not a Damien Hirst scholar).

it seems an above average amount of humility is...

2012-01-10T12:27:03.224-05:00
it seems an above average amount of humility is in order

rarely a bad idea in my experience :-)

Ed, I entirely appreciate your point. I do worry ...

2012-01-10T12:25:00.722-05:00
Ed,
I entirely appreciate your point. I do worry though about the unintended effects of working from a superficial understanding of a foreign culture. The mystery of it is part of the draw but it seems an above average amount of humility is in order. An intent to illuminate can easily appear to trivialize.

Cathy, I don't feel that it at all suggests ...

2012-01-10T08:16:00.442-05:00
Cathy,

I don't feel that it at all suggests artists shouldn't dabble in whatever they want to. Hybrids of any nature can lead to breakthroughs and are often very interesting to both cultures. I'm looking at it more from the art viewing (rather than art making) point of view. I, as a Westerner, should be aware that symbols and associations that I interpret through the lens of my life experience and worldview most likely don't translate the same way to the folks in another culture, and as such, not being the artist's intended audience, it behooves me to suspect (at least) I may not fully understand/appreciate what the artist feels he/she is communicating.

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2012-01-09T22:04:59.426-05:00
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So, in a Ron Paulesque sort of way, should artists...

2012-01-09T19:23:03.431-05:00
So, in a Ron Paulesque sort of way, should artists not stick their fingers in the art of regions of the world they know little about? Is regionalism gaining credence? It sort of makes sense to me but so does making a sincere effort to understand the visual universe of another culture. I'm currently working on a Western translation of painting based on Persian folklore. In many ways it is absurd because I'm a novice appreciator rather than a scholar. But I'm drawn to it.

interesting how grammar can affect vocabulary You...

2012-01-09T10:01:05.255-05:00
interesting how grammar can affect vocabulary

Your post here and last weeks news of yet another physical attack on a painting made me wonder if we ever actually see paintings? Maybe we dont see what is there, but only what our memories are associated to - as in your red for some is associated to a political agenda, where for others red it is keyed to if an apple is ripe or not.

What if we never see art, but only our memories? I still can't figure what caused that viewer to attack a painting. It kind of hints at that intentionality is only part of the meaning in an art work, regardless of Louise Bourgeois's adamncy that the artist alone knows the arts meaning.

i had to look up shibboleth!