Tuesday, February 27, 2007

An Incipient Vomitting

He was discussing the widespread response to Genet's work among the so-called gentlepeople of French society, but Jean-Paul Sartre's definition of "disgust" is one I've never forgotten. I can't find the exact quote (I think it might be in Saint Genet), but it went more or less like:

And yet what is disgust, but an incipient vomitting? And what you vomit must surely have already been inside you.
I've always taken that to mean that "disgust" is actually a bit of a pose, because it reveals a choice to be disgusted, not necessarily anything inherently disgusting about the object/action in question. If you're presented with something entirely new, for example, you can't feel disgust at it, you feel rather amazement or bemusement or pure curiosity, because you're literally forced to perceive it with an open mind. It's only by subsequently associating it with something you've already decided is "disgusting" that you lump it into that category.

Take eating brains for example. If you've never tried them, you're likely to approach the opportunity via one of two paths: some folks say they would hurl if presented with a dish of brains; others say they would happily dive in, having heard they're a delicacy. Unless you've eaten them, though, the first path is a pose. Why? Because there's nothing inherently disgusting about eating brains (you can't know if you'll like how they taste before trying them). Disgust at the idea of it is merely what you bring to the opportunity yourself.

This line of reasoning occurred to me while reading some recent texts that expressed disgust with the current state of the art market. I originally wrote this post with links to those texts, but have since decided to genericize my critique (one, because I like those writers, and two, because I don't want them to hate me).

But essentially my response to such texts is to note that IMO disgust with how "commercial" (i.e., how vacuous or anti-spiritual) everything art related is at the moment is a pose. If you accept the central premise of such complaints that art has never (historically) been this much about commerce (one I reject, but we've been over that), then the only honest response to this entirely new phenomenon is amazement or bemusement or curiosity. You can only be disgusted by it through association with something you've already decided is disgusting. In this case, greed or gluttony or whatever encapsulates the perceived excess.

This is not one of those "greed is good" lectures, despite how it might read, as much as a call for a more open mind about the current state of things. It's not likely to last (nothing does), but I find it somewhat disingenuous to proclaim disgust at an unprecedented phenomenon. Perhaps art is only reflecting the state of the world at large (something most would accept as its role in part) which has never been as wealthy as it is. Perhaps how "commercial" art seems at the moment is actually a reflection of something higher than greed or gluttony. Perhaps it's a reflection of a new paradigm. If it was an injustice for "starving artists" to be so neglected by society, perhaps the new era of millionaire artists is the appropriate correction. Perhaps it will change things for all artists across the board with time. There are those now arguing that we're entering the age of creative leadership, where capitalism must seek out and reward the most creative minds to survive. Perhaps all this money in the art market is simply a way to move toward a more symbiotic relationship between artists and businesses...one that permits artists to retain their artistic integrity while still earning as much as lawyers, doctors, and others with a similar number of post-graduate years under their belts. I don't know actually. Perhaps it's just greed and folks are right to be disgusted, but I'm not sure there's enough information at this point to know for sure, and it's best to keep an open mind about it all, no?

36 Comments:

Anonymous David said...

I'm willing to surrender to curiosity regarding the art world, but the idea of eating brains still makes me want to hurl. Do they taste anything like eyeballs?

2/28/2007 02:20:00 PM  
Blogger Lisa Hunter said...

In all this talk of rampant commercialism in the art market, I think it's worth remembering that each sale involves a single collector connecting a single piece of art. It's not a million people buying the new Harry Potter. It's a million people buying a million different things, and presumably there's something more than commerce at work in the choices.

2/28/2007 03:23:00 PM  
Blogger Lisa Hunter said...

Connecting WITH. (Sorry, can't type today.)

2/28/2007 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger George said...

Perhaps all this money in the art market is simply a way to move toward a more symbiotic relationship between artists and businesses...one that permits artists to retain their artistic integrity while still earning as much as lawyers, doctors, and others with a similar number of post-graduate years under their belts.

I don't think so.

2/28/2007 04:18:00 PM  
Blogger Carla said...

As I read this post, I kept getting interrupted by mental pop-ups of George Bush giving a speech.

...Sorry, that was cruel.

2/28/2007 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Cedric Caspesyan said...

Actually, doctors and lawyers. for all the great worth of what they bring to society, are the reason so many other people are poor and dare I say, in some case starving to death.


Edward, you can have a successful business in art without selling your soul to devil. It's really not necessary.


There is a difference with an artist getting some income for what they do, and subordinating all their creation to the market, to product-making, and to the fact that it might sell or not.

I don't think it can ever be evil that an artist get money if they do something great (unless money is anti-ethical with the purpose of their art). The problem is when artists are oriented towards selling and everything they do is done with this issue in sight of mind. This is not about disgust, it's about the philosophy of art and wrether business is hampering to that. It's really always about the "Is It Really Worth It?" magic question, but taken in every senses. I see a lot of art sold in auction that makes me ask "Hmm...Was that really worth it?". Is the artist or audience really getting anything "valuable" (outside of signature)???


I understand artists must survive, that is why I ask them to stop do art and let the people who can manage without money, or truly don't care, to do the art at their place. Because I think they are chances that the art may be better. Maybe I'm exaggerating.
Maybe money can be a motivation for greatness, but..once you've got to it, after you've done a couple nice works, I tend to believe artists are repeating themselves because they sell. Art becomes commodity but no one (including the artist) is interested in looking toward the new by fear that they may fail and loose the market.

And I've already talked a lot about "the market creating the format". Art thinks it knows better when it's just fulfilling a few nice boards in an art fair.
I don't think I could ever do that.
Edward, if you'd offered me those boards in an art fair I'd drill large holes through them (like that guy at the last Whitney Biennial). They just beg me to format TO them. To please to the collector's eye sight. I'm not interested.


So yes, market comes with an aesthetic and it's inflecting art.
No kidding.

Cedric Caspesyan
centiment@hotmail.com

2/28/2007 05:47:00 PM  
Blogger Edward_ said...

George,

It's fine to disagree, but more interesting to others if you explain why. ;-)

Carla,

That was cruel.

I understand the impulse to be weary of the blending of art and commerce, but to take it to the extreme of "disgust" stikes me as insincere. Truly. Look a bit longer before concluding it's what you assume it is. We can't truly see what's happening while we're in the midst of it. That's all I'm saying here.

2/28/2007 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger heidilolatheayatollah said...

I understand artists must survive, that is why I ask them to stop do art and let the people who can manage without money, or truly don't care, to do the art at their place. Because I think they are chances that the art may be better. Maybe I'm exaggerating.

Cedric are you saying that only those who don't need any income (only those born wealthy) should make art???

Your argument sounds convincing until I dismantle it and can name many people who don't need the income (uber rich art stars) and continue painting variations of one thing, just like I can show you people who do need the money but try new things all the time.

I'm not sure the connection is as strong as you make it....

2/28/2007 06:11:00 PM  
Blogger heidilolatheayatollah said...

What I meant to say was maybe some people have singular vision and others it is easier to not get too attached to one route.

But is that income/market oriented?
Or another route to being undermined with no basis?

I'm just saying different artists have different approaches, why should anyone give up what they want to do so the financially free can do it without the competition?

Ha, F that!

2/28/2007 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Cedric Caspesyan said...

>>>I'm not sure the connection


I'm not sure either but, hey, it was romantic. ;-P


Cedric Caspesyan


PS: actually I think one main motivation of artists is fame, and wrether money comes with it or not is either implemented or they are too obsessed by fame to even think about it. I'm thinking of hollywood stars...How they work all year long and don't seem to ever find the time to really enjoy being rich. It's like the urge of being-staying famous took over their bank accounts.

But I do think that the urge of being famous can entice great work cos that's one of the big ways to be famous: to make great art. It's just a bit silly because we as viewers are fond of the art, all moved, enthralled and crying out loud looking at the works, when the artist probably just made it thinking it would make them famous. It's a bizarre relation but I think it happens a lot.

2/28/2007 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger heidilolatheayatollah said...

Maybe they can't be seperated, it is a contentious relationship for sure , but to even advise the non independently wealthy to drop out is definitely not the solution.

I can't even IMAGINE the art that would have been lost, great art, if anyone took to that mindset.

And like you said, it may be less about the money (wealthy/not wealthy) then not wanting to "lose" one's market niche , or thinking of new ways to wow the public and top yourself.

2/28/2007 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous David said...

Carla, George Bush has no experience with commerce. His area of expertise is entitlement.

2/28/2007 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Cedric Caspesyan said...

To your second comment:

I think it's best to "financially free" your art. Even when you need the money.

Actually you need think about money if your work cost a lot to make. But if you expect it to sale, eitheir you are sure it's really good, or you make it in ways that you know will please instead of really seeking what you would do if you didn't have to please.

But as a consequennce, some people would do nothing, or remain repetitive if they had money, while others would use the opportunity to realize their most crazy fantasies, so, my argument fails.

It's just been so prevalent, the bad, or...not the bad, because real bad art kinda rocks...but let's say, the "average" art that's been made because it sells well. Half-assed creativity have been so much saturating my vision sphere, that I sort of imagined that for a while, if people would do art without need of money, maybe something really honest would come out.

I was reading recently an interview with reformed band Throbbing Gristle, and how they described that their art would have never been possible if they thought for a second about the money they could have made. So I was sort of coming from there. From this feeling that sometimes the only art that seems to really count is the one that can't be co-opted by the market, at least for a while. That this art must really mean something (note that it will be different in any context). But I think I'm just being romantic.


Cheers,

Cedric Caspesyan
centiment@hotmail.com

2/28/2007 06:38:00 PM  
Blogger carla said...

David, True.

W's intrusions were not content specific, but rather a pattern of persuasion where one must be shown just where to stand/what sort of person to be, to point out the right perspective on an issue. It was really weird to hear Edward channeling him.

Whoops, sorry again.

2/28/2007 07:30:00 PM  
Blogger Edward_ said...

OK, Carla, that's two free swipes. Now you're gonna have to deliver the goods. How is it like GWB, exactly?

2/28/2007 07:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am confused.

Are we talking about the same thing?

The people saying that something is wrong with the art world are pro's with years of experience in the business. People with access to information. I am not quoting Gagosian or the others with the gigantism complex.

We are talking about $50,000 tuition. We are talking about the 400 new galleries in major cities that are spending money not produced/earned from/by art and expecting fame and a quick return from art. We are talking about dealers demanding that you don't sell the artwork you paid for and creating a "false" scarcity and value. We are talking about web and regular magazines, galleries and artists in collusion and/with/or one owner/s. We are talking of galleries and artists with a PR staff inflating their reputation. We are talking about collectors that open NFP museums but their collections are not part of it or have no endowment whatsoever. It can all end without anyone knowing and when everything is sold at a profit.

And that is just the top of the iceberg.

Are we talking about the same thing?

I am confused. Brains? Where?

mls

2/28/2007 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous sally-go-round said...

I have butterflies in my stomach. Here they come.

2/28/2007 08:17:00 PM  
Blogger Edward_ said...

Poetic as that was MLS, it's still a missing my point. To borrow your motif, I'll ask: Are you saying that from this vantage point, you can tell that we're seeing excess of significant proportions (i.e., out of whack with the world at large and not just out of whack with what came before, if even that)? What if, as you suggest, this really is just the tip of the iceberg and a decade from now we'll look back and see the art world of 2007 as quaintly altruistic. We don't know. In the original post, I've allowed for the possibility that "it's just greed and folks are right to be disgusted" but if I'm honest about it (and not just romantic), I have to admit I'm not sure.

Brains? Where?

That's too cryptic a question to answer.

2/28/2007 08:49:00 PM  
Anonymous kat said...

" perhaps the new era of millionaire artists is the appropriate correction. Perhaps it will change things for all artists across the board with time. "

A rich artist is as good as a rich African American celebrity or politician: Good for them but hardly does much for the rest of us (ie the majority) In the end, most people defend their territory. If your livelihood depends on the market and commercialism you defend it, whether an artist or gallerist.

2/28/2007 09:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am watching South Park now.

American Idol was so so.

Waiting for Lost.

See you tomorrow.

mls.

2/28/2007 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger Carla said...

Edward,

I'll take back my second swipe, if I may.

No similarity in a substantial or even serious way. The "maybe this is a good thing" tone of your last paragraph reminds me, in a playful (and weirdly audible) way, of GWB's optimistic (and in his case dishonest) projections on things like The Clear Air Initiative, tax cuts, Prescription Drug Plan/Energy policy being written by the industries....that these are all good for us...really...

The similarity is in the stretching, which is what I am doing,too. :-)

May I go have some wine now?

2/28/2007 10:01:00 PM  
Blogger George said...

Ed,
I am not one of the disgusted. Disturbed, distracted or disillusioned, possibly, but I understand the psychology of how markets work and I accept market forces as a given.

"It is not about the art, it is about the money" This is a direct quote from an art world ‘professional’.

Perhaps art is only reflecting the state of the world at large (something most would accept as its role in part) which has never been as wealthy as it is.

Reflecting the state of the world? I might agree in principle, but the question of "wealth" might be casual rather than something to reflect upon. How about: the disproportionate distribution of this wealth, a world wide religious war, genocide, a corrupt government, a failed philosophy?

Perhaps how "commercial" art seems at the moment is actually a reflection of something higher than greed or gluttony.

‘Greed and gluttony’, if applicable as characteristics, are not attached to art per se, but to the environment of the marketplace. If artists choose to comment on these questions, then one must question their motivation, are they making a social commentary or are they trying to create a strategy which allows them to partake in the feast?

Perhaps it's a reflection of a new paradigm.

I am not sure what this new paradigm is, if we are talking about "commercialism" then I would suggest that most "commercial art" is better than most "high art" which alludes to it. A good deal of art in the galleries is just "commercial art" that isn’t good enough to advertise with.

If it was an injustice for "starving artists" to be so neglected by society, perhaps the new era of millionaire artists is the appropriate correction.

First off, as I am sure you know (Rembrant and his circle is an example), this is not a new phenomena. Second, the unequal distribution of wealth still exists, there are a few millionaire artists but the vast majority are just making ends meet.

Perhaps it will change things for all artists across the board with time. There are those now arguing that we're entering the age of creative leadership, where capitalism must seek out and reward the most creative minds to survive.

I think we read the same article. Art is not an issue for the survival of capitalism, capitalism will evolve and change by adapting to market forces, whatever they may be.

Perhaps all this money in the art market is simply a way to move toward a more symbiotic relationship between artists and businesses...one that permits artists to retain their artistic integrity while still earning as much as lawyers, doctors, and others with a similar number of post-graduate years under their belts.

The driving force of a good part of ‘all this money in the art world’ is about making money, not the art. It is about fashion, the creation of desire, the display of wealth, reallocation of ones asset base, profit and innumerable other factors only tangentially associated with art itself. Is it symbiotic or parasitic?

I don't know actually.

Perhaps it's just greed and folks are right to be disgusted, but I'm not sure there's enough information at this point to know for sure, and it's best to keep an open mind about it all, no?

Greed is probably not the right word, greed might be involved but it is probably more of a game for the rich than anything else.

I do think there is enough information to have an understanding of what is occurring. From my point of view, the art market is in a bubble, it’s tulipmania time. People have short memories, they forget what happened in the past, that the value, the prices, and the significance of an artist’s work are subject to changing tastes, changing philosophies, changing fashion and the economy. What is ‘hot, hot, hot" today might be "not, not, not" tomorrow.

The question is do any of these points have anything to do with making art? Or, are they just part of the background noise one has to deal with in the process? Is it an artist’s responsibility to manifest a vision of the world, to share this with others? Or, is it just to achieve material success like everyone else in a 9 to 5 job? Are we visionaries, or just producers of bling for the wealthy? Are we transgressive because we believe it will change others perceptions and understanding of the world, or are we just strategically seeking sensationalism. Are we making poetry or writing airplane fictions as trivial diversions. Do we believe in what we do, or do we do what others believe or want to believe? Do we ask deep inner questions of ourselves, or are we just gaming the marketplace?

Whatever the answers, it affects ones intentions and therefore it is visible in the artwork.

2/28/2007 10:26:00 PM  
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3/01/2007 02:03:00 AM  
Blogger Edward_ said...

The question is do any of these points have anything to do with making art?

Yes, indeed, that is the exact question...thanks for the thoughtful response that led there George.

My sneaking suspicion is that the answer is Yes. All of those points have something to do with making important art right now.

I'm still formulating my thoughts around such observations (which is the real motivation behind the [as Carla notes and I should have given her more credit for] Bushian tone of the argument here), but when I sit down and do the hard thinking, I begin to suspect we're witnessing the birth of the bastard love child of Warhol and Koons. And more than that, that this love child actually has something valuable to teach us. It's too early to say what that is, exactly, but the only alternative to finding out, IMO, is to retreat into some worn out cul de sac, some previous model of thinking about that tricky place where art meets commerce.

The disgust expressed at the state of that meeting place, again, strikes me as a pose. I'm not claiming what's happening is necessarily good for art, but I am totally amazed by it and willing to watch with an open mind.

3/01/2007 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Karl Zipser said...

If you accept the central premise of such complaints that art has never (historically) been this much about commerce...

I think that art has never been less about commerce, and that is the problem.

Commercial does not mean "vacuous or anti-spiritual," it means "occupied or engaged in commerce" which is the "exchange or buying and selling of commodities on a large scale involving transportation from place to place", where a commodity is "an economic good" or "an article of commerce..." (dictionaries are great).

One alternative to commerce is: no selling (which a lot of artists are doing today). Another is to step outside of any moral framework and take what you want (which is what the American government is doing). I don't see how either alternative is more spiritual.

Ed,

This notion of yours that disgust can only be an "after the fact" reaction defies the idea that we have an imagination. I don't agree with your reasoning.

3/01/2007 11:14:00 AM  
Blogger Edward_ said...

This notion of yours that disgust can only be an "after the fact" reaction defies the idea that we have an imagination. I don't agree with your reasoning.

Fair enough. But how are disgust and imagination connected? If you imagine that something you've never experienced would be disgusting, that hardly makes it so.

Commercial does not mean "vacuous or anti-spiritual,"

not per se, perhaps, but that's generally the implied critique when one argues art is too commercial, no?

3/01/2007 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Karl Zipser said...

Ed,

You are saying that disgust is a percept, an impression obtained by use of the senses, which cannot be reached without direct sensory input (e.g., eating those brains). The entire worlds of art and literature are based on the fact that people can get a pretty good mental simulation of a percept by reading about it or looking at a picture. It is said again and again that no one can understand what war is really like without being in a real battle. I believe that, but I also think that we can get some sense of it from people's attempts to describe it in various media.

Regarding ""vacuous or anti-spiritual," in the middle ages merchants sometimes had their "In the name of God and Profit" written in the header of their account books. Offhand I can't think of clear historical examples where money in itself has been bad for art. It seems to have been the other way around. Not to say that money is sufficient, but it is a useful ingredient.

3/01/2007 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous David said...

One alternative to commerce is: no selling (which a lot of artists are doing today).

Karl, only a small minority, I'd guess, are doing this by choice :)

3/01/2007 11:52:00 AM  
Blogger Edward_ said...

You are saying that disgust is a percept, an impression obtained by use of the senses, which cannot be reached without direct sensory input (e.g., eating those brains).

Not exactly. I'm saying that without experiencing it first hand, though, one cannot be entirely sure. Therefore, to claim certainty without firsthand experience is posing.

wrt: commercial

The distinction you're not addressing though is "too commercial." That's the charge. Excess. I'm not sure the charge is wrong, but there's not enough information yet for me to claim disgust.

3/01/2007 11:55:00 AM  
Blogger Bill Gusky said...

At this point I'm more of the "it is what it is" pursuasion.

If it isn't money, it's power (political or religious) that motivates art funders, going back as far as the archaeological eye can see. There's a Guggenheim or Stein or Medici or a Caesar or a Pharoah behind the art that is kept in remembrance or that enters the canon.

Art that isn't sponsored in some way or other is art that ultimately vanishes. Maybe it beats everything that breaks the social threshhold hands-down, but without sponsorship -- during or after the artist's lifetime -- it goes nowhere.

I think we can be friends with this idea, even if it sometimes means associating with people we'd prefer not to. In fact we can decide who and who not to sell to, as artists have proven in the past. True?

3/01/2007 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger George said...

Regarding disgust: I think this is a response which is hard wired in the brain, a neurological response like fear for example.

How it is activated as a feeling or awareness would be the result of some input, but not necessarily a perceptual (sensory) input, which triggers the response. I suspect that it can be triggered in the imagination by accessing the memory of a previous disgusting experience. In this case, there may be no casual link between the imagined disgust and its theoretical source. In other words, reading about eating an eyeball may be disgusting, but this is a response which has more to do with conceptualizing it would be disgusting than finding out it is actually disgusting by experience, i.e. eating an eyeball and saying yuk.

3/01/2007 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger Hungry Hyaena said...

Edward:

I'm by no means disgusted with the market, but I am frustrated...and I'm not alone.

You wrote:
"The disgust expressed at the state of that meeting place, again, strikes me as a pose. I'm not claiming what's happening is necessarily good for art, but I am totally amazed by it and willing to watch with an open mind."

To some extent I am as willing as you, all my "posing" aside. And so I must be if I want to develop a sustainable career.

On the other hand, the questions that George raised are pertinent, important ones, and I feel they must be addressed by each player (artist, curator, dealer, and even collector). In my case, for example, I still don't think I can play the game well and feel good about myself when the day is done. Will this hurt my chances? Probably. That frustrates me...but it isn't disgusting, and it's got very little to do with money.

I don't know if my recent post (last week) was one of those that got you thinking about the "disgust issue," but it certainly garnered a lot of email and some phone calls. Oddly, after a week of soul searching and trying to address the questions as best I could, I've done something of an aboutface. I'm now leaning toward staying in New York longterm (with frequent country jaunts for sanity's sake).

Perhaps making that choice means I'm a brain eater (in the open mind kinda way)...or maybe I've become a soulless cog in the machine, one more hopeful sellout to the system. I'd like to think it's the former option.

We each have to wrestle with these questions on our own...and then live with the decisions we make. Art and money (or power) have always been bedmates. Of that there is no doubt, and each of us needs to find our place in the mix. Cheers to that often messy journey. ;)

3/01/2007 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Cedric Caspesyan said...

Kat:
>>>In the end, most people defend their territory. If your livelihood depends on the market and commercialism >>>>you
defend it, whether an artist or gallerist.



And when your livelihood depends on art but not on its market, you also defend something else. Not sure if it's a territory,

but...


David:
>>Karl, only a small minority, I'd guess, are doing this (ed: not selling) by choice :)


But I don't think it's tragedy to keep your day job so you are more free to do the heck you want with your art wrether it sells or

not.

The fact that your art sells or not is not the problem, the problem is when you make art SO that it sells. For the PURPOSE
of selling so that you can EAT.


I wonder...I do wonder, about the art those great masters would have done if they DIDN'T HAVE TO DECOR THOSE
GODDAMN CHURCHES !

How many more VIRGIN MARY CAN YOU GET ME ???

GRRR. ];-)

Where's YOUR art ?? YOUR REVELATION?






Cedric Caspesyan
centiment@hotmail.com

3/01/2007 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Cedric said...

Actually maybe the "grandness" of the churches influenced the "grandness" of some of the arts, but if only we had borrowed a bit from...I dunno...Islam?..Maybe we could have tried other stuff than depecting the same 14 scenes over and over again.


Cedric

3/01/2007 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous oriane stender said...

I think if we're really honest with ourselves, we will admit that most people who are disgusted with the art market, artists especially, are those who are not benefitting from it. If you're selling a lot work, what's to be disgusted about? (Obviously this is a simplification for the sake of argument; there are lots of reasons to be concerned about the enornous power collectors and museum trustees have now, but right now I'm just focusing on artists.) Of course the spectre of "the market" raises all sorts of questions about whether, when you're selling a lot of work you are making work that you know will sell (i.e. repeating work that has sold before) rather than striking out into new territories. We have such a sense of purity about art; such a sense that once one is corrupted, it's all over, you've lost your soul. In other art forms, say acting, we tend to accept that a great actor will occasionally make a crappy, lowest-common-denomiator, devoid-of-artistic-value blockbuster in order to pay the bills, or to finance working in the theatre or on independent films which don't pay much. We usually cut them a little slack.* Couldn't we develop the same attitude about artists? That, given the chance to make some money by making more pieces in a series than we might have if they didn't sell, most of us would, and does that have to mean that we have sold our soul to the devil and can never get it back? Can we dip into that pool of money for a while and then get out if it is forcing us to compromise our artistic integrity? I'm asking myself this as I'm asking you all, just putting it out there for consideration.

*Of course we all draw the line somewhere. For me those American Express ads with de Niro (my city, my heartbeat, my heartbreak (with the quick shot of the pit at ground zero, the swelling, operatic music, etc.) went over the line and I lost a lot of respect for him.

3/02/2007 01:11:00 PM  
Blogger Jacques de Beaufort said...

W.W.W.B.D.

(What Would William Blake Do ?)

3/05/2007 03:28:00 AM  

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